FemIDEAS

quite emotional while I was walking here because I didn’t realize it was it’s been more than three
years that this process has been in making mid-2019 to be precise and because we’ve all lost track of
time I quite didn’t realize how long this journey has been already so thank you very much for
everyone who’s here in person and for all the people who are joining us online.
This launch is being hosted by the Center for the Study of Democracy which is based in the
School of Social Sciences at the University of Westminster and the center undertakes a range of
research in critical social and political about social and political challenges and promoting
an interdisciplinary research environment. You will hear more about our research in a second
but for now I want to hand over to Professor Dibyesh Anand without whose help we wouldn’t have
been able to put this event together. Dibyesh is the head of school for social sciences but he’s
also the co-chair of the university’s EDI committee, the Equality Diversity and Inclusion
committee as well as the BME network committee. You can also read more about our speakers bios
and there’s a list of their publications online on the Eventbrite page so if you want to check
that out please go on our Eventbrite page. Just a quick note before we proceed we are not going to
speak about specific cases of violence at this event but if it does bring up anything for any of
you me and Jess we’re going to be around so come and speak to us but for people who are online
if it does bring up anything for you we will be checking our email which is femdialogue.gmail.com
which is F-E-M-D-I-A-L-O-G-U-E so please feel free to write to us and we will respond
and this event also has a code of conduct so we are hoping that you’ve all engaged with it before
the event so thank you.
Thank you Adhrija for inviting me here so as Adhrija said I’m Professor Divyash Anand my
preferred pronouncer he and him. I’m head of school of social sciences which is where partly
it’s co-located it’s also located co-located with media school it’s collaboration between two schools
and we are hosting Jessica, Adhrija and whoever else joins us in this project and of course that
includes international partners now center for the study of democracy which is the primary host
of this event is based in the school and it is it was formed in 1989 it’s quite old if I’m not
mistaken it’s oldest within the university if not one of the oldest it’s quite old we are known for
our very critical work but critical often did not mean something that goes beyond the west
so the way I would see is even our sentence on journey journey that goes beyond thinking of
Europe as a site of all criticality and thinking of the rest of the world as simply a site where
you do some investigation that has changed for many years and of course if it had not changed I
would not be here but we’re very clear a key theme for us is on decoloniality and post-coloniality
now so I’m here to welcome you to the center and check us out center for the study of democracy
university Westminster you’ll find us here again reach out to us and of course to Adhrija and
Jessica but also now directly to us we do range of work and we will keep expanding the kind of
work we do but as I said being radical being critical but also being humane is at the heart
of how I would say we function now that’s not written anywhere in the document that we are
humane but I’m pointing it out because in my own experience we have noticed is sometimes
radical and critical politics can itself be quite dehumanizing we see the others as enemies
and we are the radical ones we are trying to bring about change and we often forget that we
are dealing with other human beings right so those kind of things we do that but I also
would like to say a bit about our university university Westminster some of you are guests
here so it’s for you I said I’m one of the senior leaders in the university I identify as queer
and I identify as queer not only as gay but queer in every sense my own work is on challenging
coloniality of China with every Uighurs and Tibetans and of course challenging colonial
of India with every Kashmir I see myself as and I know colleagues here who also see themselves in
some sense it’s not I’m putting words into your mouth challenging those who challenge and question
all the time and our university the space where I found that space even while being in that
management position Adrija earlier called me line manager and I don’t like that word but that’s
harsh reality I’m line manager right so one has to balance between governance and creating more
empowering space so so far we’re trying our level best within the university do it but the way I see
this project apart from the importance of the project for the world for the UK for high education
it’s also very important within the university because we like all other institutions we grapple
with all kinds of challenges we may have the right policies may right we may have right policies but
not necessarily the right culture we may develop the right culture but if policies are not there
to support it would not work the only way in which we can manage to get better practice what
we preach is if we are humble enough to acknowledge we don’t always have it right but we want to learn
from others so the way I see this is this project is an opportunity for our university for our center
is to learn not only from them because they’re part of us in any case but also learn from those
who engage with this as partners sometimes without even not being partners but by being visitors
because the only way in which universities can fulfill the mission of being a space where
everyone can breathe I’m using the word breathe deliberately a breathe be themselves if it is
also humble enough to acknowledge problems challenge it challenge prejudices and then come
up with practices and solutions that may work for all now of course we understand that not all
approach will work for all context matters a lot context can be the cultural context context can be
country context context with the higher education or some other corporate world you’re dealing with
but the fact of the matter is we and as a Westminster is open we are open about
learning from each other so that’s how I see the partnership part and what final thing would I
like to say to you look welcome to all of you who are there online I mean but I don’t know
whether you can see us or not online those are here or you can see I need to look better my
scars are straight yeah okay for those of you online again please keep in touch be part of the
project help us help the society that the place the institution and all institutions get better
and that at that note because that is what for me decolonizing is and decolonization is oh I’ll end
with that so our university is very has a very clear commitment to decolonizing and diversifying
and I’m part of that commitment making sure that’s how commitment is because in my own
experience my work I’ve been on post-colonial decolonial I often or sometimes found that in
the name of decolonization what was happening was even sometimes marginalization of less
articulate voices from global south it was often about upper caste indians I include myself in
that by the way upper caste indians or upper class whatever non-western people taking this space
and never talking about things that are taking place in whatever the cultural slash country
context and you could have a decolonizing approach which is very male gendered
so the reason we have within our decolonizing and diversifying both is because we should not
be forced to choose between you want this or that do you want a most radical white straight male
person to lead your decolonizing agenda because maybe they have the right language
or do you want to balance between that and recognizing that representations do matter
so we have no answers but we’re looking for answers so hopefully those online and those
in person will help us with that and this project is part of it but we are very proud to host you
or the region jessica and whoever else joins us later it’s important that we continue to support
you and continue to support us thank you so much
hi everyone i’m going to introduce adrija so dr adrija day is leading this project and she’s a
senior research fellow at the school of social science and school of media and communication
at the university here and adrija conducts research with a specific focus on the global south
and through a decolonial abolitionist and intersectional feminist lens
and she’s been a really vocal campaigner against sexual misconduct in higher education
and currently is the director of the international knowledge exchange at the 1752 group
and i also just want to acknowledge all the hard work adrija has put in for the last three years
blood sweat and tears and sheer determination and dedication which is a huge accomplishment
so congratulations adrija as well for getting us here and i’ll hand over to you
thank you everyone and thank you jess for yeah i never know how to react to when my bio is being
read academics love a good acronym i remember when i was writing this first it was like
researching sexual harassment and the only acronym was rash but we’ve come up with something better
we’re calling our project femme ideas and one of the reasons why we wanted to call
it femme ideas because in our name we wanted to very categorically cement and spell out
our ideological commitments and groundings and these are the principles that we are deeply deeply
committed to in this project beyond this we are guided by a larger umbrella of gendered framework
for analysis learning from black feminist and indigenous methodologies for research
and building solidarities across borders and jess will speak more about our methods in a second
as our name says our project aims to develop survivor-centered intersectional decolonial
abolitionist theories and approaches to prevent and better respond to sexual violence within
educational institutions we aim to do this by bringing together insights experiences
and activism from survivors activists practitioners policymakers in the global south
specifically chile brazil south africa nigeria and indigenous communities of new zealand
and you will also hear from some of our project partners a bit later in the evening
but what we aim to do in this research is to kind of shift the imperial geographies of knowledge
production by specifically focusing on the lessons and movements from the global south
but also thinking about how some of these lessons can be implemented here in the global north
in this project we also refuse to be disciplined had to get in upon somewhere
we bring together various theoretical threads from different disciplines to weave together
our narrative for change it was also important to mention because the first rejection of this project
came because we couldn’t be fit inside in a particular discipline
so
xerxes mendez on speaking about the importance of abolitionist work says that abolitionist
philosophy has the well-being of humanity at its core so when mendez describes their work
they call their work as a contribution to the building of a living bridge a metaphor introduced
by community organizer mia mignus for describing the kind of slow work which spans over generations
to build a movement to stop sexual violence in a meaningful unsustainable way we imagine
our project and our work in the project to be another brick in that living bridge
so in finding base forward we’re also deeply committed to
transformative justice approaches which are also considered to be decolonial feminist
for all the ways in which they seek to respond to sexual intended violence through specific
attentiveness to the root cause and conditions that enable it and while we’re talking about
structural violence before i proceed i wanted to convey my personal support and the support of
this project for the upcoming ucu strikes but also to our comrades in unison and other staff
and workers who are currently on strike many of them are online today with us
along with patriarchy the working and living conditions of people and the violence of racial
capitalism forms the foundation to understanding how sexual violence operates within institutions
operates within institutions precarity pay pension pay gap and sexual violence are deeply
deeply interconnected and any work on sexual violence is incomplete without taking into
considerations the conditions that make such violence possible and acceptable in the first
place and continuing on the on the topic of capitalism i often feel that one of capital’s
biggest wins is that it’s killed our dream of an alternative so we’ve always described this project
as my dream of an alternative that a better world is possible but the more i think about it i
realized that this was never my dream alone it was the dream of every activist every comrade
who’s helped shape this work it’s the dream of every student across the world who are pushing
back and breaking the shackles of capitalist academia it is the dream of every of a group of
international students who came together in 2018 to start the account for this campaign
to hold institutions accountable in the uk it’s the dream of black brown indigenous students of
queer students and trans folks who are relentlessly campaigning to implement some of the best
and the most progressive changes in the sector it is a dream of groups like the 1752 group and
my comrades who are fighting every day to make change and i could go on and on and on but most
importantly it is the dream of every survivor of sexual and gender-based violence in higher education
so this project is our collective dream and i’m so sorry i can’t be
that’s allison our mentor
and we learn and build on in this project on the tireless work of our comrades so this project
is built by a huge community of people coming together and hence every aspect of it also
belongs to the community following indigenous scholars and comrades we define community as a
define community as a structure that not only enables radical collectives and decolonizing
feminist experiments but also it’s a space of collective joy healing and development
finally we want to disrupt some of the ways in which neoliberal academia is structured
we don’t believe that research is or can ever be individual so we bring
a community together to build this research and following the works of marie scholar linda smith
we aim to incorporate ethical procedures within our project to report back to our community
the belief that theory which is not put into practice is absolutely redundant so theory
and practice speak to each other in every aspect of this project all the knowledge that we produce
in this project is copy left so all our major documents our forms everything that we produced
will be uploaded on our project website that academics activists practitioners across the
world can access so you don’t have to so people who don’t have the resources they don’t have to
start this work from scratch they have the resources available to them we’re building an
archive of policy practice and theory particularly from the third world and the global south
to make louder and louder the voices which are silenced or lost in academia in the global north
we are bringing together an advisory group of academics practitioners and activists
from across the world to not only hold us accountable but also to give us direction
we are bringing together a group of survivors to review all our questionnaires our surveys our
focus groups materials to ensure that survivor voices and needs remain at the core of everything
that we do we also want to start a fellowship program specifically for survivors of sexual
violence who have been pushed out of academia we want to bring together academics and practitioners
who can review and provide feedback on cvs and sops and proposals for survivors many of our friends
in the global south they don’t have resources such as access to journal articles or books
so through this project we also want to use our privilege to redistribute and provide some of
those resources to our comrades friends and sisters but also this is our way of sending out
a very clear message to perpetrators and institutions to say that if you want to push
survivors out there are many many people around the world who are not going to let that happen anymore
and while we try to do a lot of things differently there is obviously there are times
when we’re going to stumble and when we’re going to fall and this is when we urge all of you
our community who’s has joined us online and here is to hold us accountable to point out
our mistakes to tell us what we can do differently to tell us what we can do better share ideas
thoughts stories resources if you’re working in this space it’s a very very lonely space
it’s also a space which is filled with a lot of trauma so don’t think you’re alone even if it is
to share some coffee and cake we are here but also we are here to think together to work together
to build a new world together bear with me a little while longer while I say some thank yous
Simon for actually telling me about this grant and for believing in this project
uh when not a lot of people did including myself
uh for always having our back and for supporting us through everything and our crazy ideas
we learn from you on how to be a better manager but also how to be a better member of our academic
community Anastasia and Radha who are online for supporting me from day one and for finding this
project a home Alison Phipps our mentor who’s also online thank you for being so so generous
with your time and your comments Alice and Michaela for all your support and advice
our colleagues in Camry and social sciences for welcoming Jess and me so warmly in the
university community our colleagues in HR and support services Lenny Rochelle and who continuously
support this project our colleagues in security and cleaning for being the warmest presence
but also reminding me to water my plants they are the only two plants in my entire lifetime
that I haven’t killed but also scolding me for every time that I’m late to work
and a word for providing the most critical and honest comments and for your continued support
for the project but every single person who’s read my draft who’s read the proposal who’s put
in their time love and labor into writing response helping me prep for interviews
this project belongs to all of you Jess for being my fellow traveler in this wild ride
um and to all our friends comrades sisters family and partners
we’re so happy that some of you are here and online
thank you is too small a word for all the ways in which you hold us nurture us and grow us
but what we would like to say is how grateful we are to all of you for your continuous support care
love affection wisdom reflection lessons and we promise to pass on the same love care generosity
to others in our community as well you teach us every day on how to be better and finally
we owe this research to survivors who’ve given us their time and labor in retelling stories of
violence and trauma but also of love and descent this is our way of giving back to you to create
fractures to disrupt existing narratives and to build change to you we owe everything
and on that note I’m going to invite Jess to come and speak a little more about the project
as I said Jess is my co-traveler in this journey she’s a postdoc fellow at the school of social
sciences and the school of media and communications she has a background in conducting feminist
intersectional participatory survivor-led research in the field of gender-based violence
with a specific focus on gender politics of prevention and intervention so Jess thank you
mm-hmm
thank you Aduja just to say if you’ve just joined us please feel free to grab a drink there’s
we have a lot of wine to get through and if you’re already here go for a second round or
help yourself to nibbles as well and so I’m just going to kind of speak a little bit about
the theoretical underpinnings of the methodological approach we’re using
and just kind of touch on and expand some of the points that Aduja has already touched on
to really kind of explore or discuss really why we’ve placed survivors at the forefront of all
of this work and I wanted to start with just a couple of quotes and one from a participant in
my own research and then one from Judith Herman who I’m sure many of you her work you’re probably
aware of and we chose these quotes really because they capture kind of the essence of what we’re
seeking to achieve when it comes to participants involvement namely to create new spaces and
opportunities in which to hear the voices of people whose lived experience of sexual and
gender-based violence in higher education can be heard spaces in which lived experiences are
affirmed and located as epistemologically vital in knowledge and theory formation and in the
development of new ways of working and policies that govern this space because we know that so
often survivors experience of sexual and gender-based violence in higher education and indeed outside of
it are often not disclosed or heard and if they are they’re not adequately responded to if they
responded to at all so we believe really that it’s crucial that this is as we approach the project
this is should be our starting point by also recognizing the real and complex challenges
politically practically speaking out involves and of course the ethical considerations of asking
people to do so and importantly we know that experience-based narratives function as a really
key mechanism for individuals who are typically excluded from knowledge production to take control
of their own representation and for amplifying what we kind of understand as situated and subjugated
knowledges and with this we’re better equipped to respond to the social justice objectives of the
study which really drive it forward by surfacing these new kind of discourses and narratives and
challenging the dominant ones that adjuda was was talking about would you mind moving to the next
slide please so just kind of more of the I guess elemental components of the study then
and in order to achieve the the kind of core aim of survivor focus we draw heavily on kind
of feminist participatory action-based research approaches and trauma-informed practices which
you know in basic terms means critically acknowledging the role trauma occupies in
the lives of many of our participants
and and with that really kind of as adjuda has has already discussed we’re locating participants
not only in kind of problem posing but also critically in problem solving and and really
kind of drawing on the ethos of participatory methods which recognize that people are experts
in their own lives so very much is a collaborative inclusive endeavor and and again as adjuda has
noted a key aim really is to shift the lens through which we we typically view sexual and
gender-based violence in higher education and indeed the way that institutions are conceptualized
understood and their role within within this so we do this really by foregrounding these voices
and perspectives especially of those that are underrepresented so survivors practitioners
activists academics with an explicit focus on those from the global south and centering the
knowledge of those that have been and continue to be marginalized through colonialism and ongoing
colonial logics and and really we understand that it’s only with this type of approach that
possibilities for radical intersectional social change and transformation are possible or might
be achieved and we’re bringing these voices of survivors kind of interrelation or triangulated
with those of university personnel practitioners and activists and I think it’s important to note
here that when we say university personnel we’re using that term kind of as expansively as possible
to kind of refer to any person employed or participating in the university kind of system
or structure ranging from academics faculty to cleaning services to security to catering
and so on because we recognize that you know sexual and gender-based violence does not occur
in isolation it crosses structural hierarchical boundary lines within institutional spaces and
we really therefore want to hear from all of these voices and of course practically speaking
we will put measures in place to manage the kind of the power dynamics that we know that are in
operation within these spaces and that will be done through kind of various different
kind of mechanisms which I’m I won’t go too deep into the methodology but if anyone is
interested we can talk more about that but essentially as you know as this
this slide shows and I know Ajit has already referred to these kind of advisory groups
we’ve seeking to kind of ensure that we’ve built processes into the methodology to ensure we’re
accountable as researchers and that we’re answerable to the people that are involved
in our research first and foremost survivors and we’ve also tried to ensure that there are various
ways of taking part of feeding in so there isn’t just one kind of channel again to be as inclusive
as we possibly can while recognizing there’ll always be kind of further work to do in that
regard and we will also everything that we do implement will be attuned to the the context in
which it’s taking place so we as you know we have the five country sites we’ve been working really
closely with partners in those sites some of whom you will be hearing from today and of course there’s
a whole host of considerations around ethics I won’t go into that tonight but if anyone is
interested I do have another slide but I won’t I won’t go to that now but we’re very happy to
talk about those if that’s something people are interested in and I think at this point
we’ll open it up to questions in the room if there’s anything that’s
sprung to mind before we move on to hearing from some of our partners
yeah if you have any questions comments we accept during sloganing anything
but if not yeah we will have more time for questions in the end as well
again feel free to feel free to go and grab wine there’s a lot of it please do
yeah I’m going to quickly check online as well because there are loads of people who are online
just to see if there are any comments or questions there again people online if you have any
questions comments please share with us on the chat and we will take it at the take it in the end
but at this point then should we just move on we’re going to hear from our mentor
Alison Phipps. Alison couldn’t be here in person but I think Alison is there on the call
right now but she’s on child care duty so she sent us very generously a little recording message
for us to play which we can play in a second but we are so grateful that Alison is the mentor for
our project for many of us it is her work probably that she started about a decade ago
that set us off in this journey of wanting to do things differently around the research of sexual
violence in higher education. Alison has she’s currently co-leading the feminist gender equality
networks gender-based violence group and is one of the patrons of the associations of gender studies
in Africa she’s also recently joined a new collective that many of us here are a part of
called Abolition Feminism for Ending Sexual Violence along with her Newcastle colleagues
so here’s Alison. I’m absolutely delighted to be supporting Adresha and Jess with this important
project I’ve sent a video as I’m on child care duty this evening but I’ll try to zoom in live
have we lost
switching on and switching off always helps why not
screen I can only apologize the next step would be banging the computer which I will do
what are we doing no idea let’s try all and I’ve probably tried every single method you can think
of to use the master’s tools to dismantle the master’s house the failures of my own activism
eventually brought me to abolition and it’s great to see abolitionist and decolonial approaches
start to permeate the mainstream of the UK movement through projects such as this
the carceral focus of sexual violence activism in Britain is deeply inflected with whiteness
and I mean whiteness as a historical social economic political and cultural structure
not an identity or the color of anyone’s skin political whiteness refers to modes of political
action that combine victimhood and supremacy grounded in fear and threat and seeking redress
for individual injuries through the power of the institution or the state now the university is
not the state but it’s not not the state either universities are central to flows of dispossession
and accumulation and deeply embedded in state capitalist exploitation and violence including
post-911 border and counter-terrorism regimes the university is also a key site of modern
distributed governmentality the white feminist attachment to institutional governance can be
seen as a flight from vulnerability in the absence of other viable options set within what lauren
berlant might call genres of crisis focused on both sexual violence in universities and the labor
relations of the institution itself but like state feminism this governance feminism produces
collateral damage black students in the us are disproportionately represented in student discipline
cases queer academics are more likely to be accused of sexual misconduct and safeguarding
agendas in women’s sport have led to outcomes that exclude trans and other marginalized women
like appealing to the state asking the institution to keep us safe protects some
at the expense of others it’s also difficult to see how the web of risk management and regulation
in british universities policies checklists benchmarks case management processes codes of
conduct is improving relationships in our institutions it’s mostly being spun by paid
consultants and activists have to marshal our creativity and empathy in the service of
administration and as the threads tighten they create a securitization of the campus
which is characteristic of the us but which is creeping into britain as well and which
associates sexual violence work with reactionary agendas such as prevent that’s why it’s important
to broaden our frame of reference which adres project seeks to do through learning from the
epistemologies and practices of global south activists these are grounded in collective
action and anti-colonial resistance see the institution for what it is and understand
gender as co-constituted with race through sexual violence and for the ends of racial
capitalism and when we understand the role of sexual violence in racial capitalism
and position against white supremacy rather than seeking power within it
we can no longer cling to the state or institution and must build alternatives instead
as angela davis jena dent beth richie and erica miners write in their book abolition feminism now
abolition must be international because capitalism is global and alongside exporting economic
exploitation it exploits carceral ideologies as part of a protection racket that keeps us
under control the pincer movement between interpersonal gender violence and state violence
is deeply colonial sexual violence is a bordering project through acts that keep us afraid and
imputations that tell us we should actually be fearing the dangerous other over there
when we reframe violence to include state colonial and institutional violence and reframe
safety as a collective relation rather than an individual possession it helps us ask different
questions i’m so looking forward to supporting and learning from this project adreda and jess
are both absolute stars and i think they have a huge amount to contribute to sexual violence
scholarship and practice i hope you all have a wonderful evening and i’ll see you on zoom
thank you allison is arisen there now thank you allison for sending us the video and for
all the encouragement and generosity that you show to us and the project next we’re meant to
hear from our project partner in south africa but due to some unavoidable last-minute circumstances
she’s not able to join us today so we’re going to move on to our next video it’s another short
video um i think caroline might be on the call as well but caroline is our project partner from
brazil sao paulo i’m not going to even try to pronounce the name of the university
and butcher it but she was here last week and she very kindly recorded a little video
in support of the project and telling us about why this project is important from the context of
of brazil
and we’re just going to get it up in a sec
and while we’re waiting please grab wine and nipples
uh
hello everyone i’m super happy to stay here uh in a video with you and i’m pleasure to
support this project as a partner uh the project about the colonizers sexual
and gender-based violence in high education especially in brazil
uh
um
as a government that was really misogynist.
So this kind of subject was hiding more and more
in the last years.
And at the same time, we had a huge movement
that women that don’t agree with this violence
more in universal context.
And it’s really important to talk about sex harassment
in universities.
And for me, it’s important to understand
because in Brazil, the colonization is important
because in Brazil, gender was based in colonization.
So when we talk about white and black and indigenous people,
every time this kind of layer change
when we mean gender.
So it’s not one gender, it’s not a single gender.
And we have so many layers, so we need this kind of research
to understand more how you can provide for this university
and how ways we can navigate to that.
For example, of course, we have a huge problem
that women suffer from sexual harassment.
But at the same time, we need to understand, for example,
that black guys, they are constructed by violent guys.
So at some point have different layers to power that,
for example, we have gays that they are accused
to be a sex perpetrator of some kind of violence.
And they just agree with that because of black guys.
And sometimes it’s not the point.
So what I mean, it’s not just about women.
It’s about how gender is constructed
and how you can understand deeply this situation.
And of course, when we talk about sex harassment,
we have a lot of women that suffer violence.
And in Brazil, we have a high number
of different kinds of violence.
And we’re keeping high in this conversation.
So university, it’s not different
because sometimes I understand the university
like a political place because you have a lot of scientists
that really believe that’s a safe place.
But it’s not.
For me, it’s more how you can navigate in these hours.
The university understands that gender is a way
to construct power.
So sometimes it’s not just about if you
are a professor and a student, but how these relations
happen with your colleagues.
Sometimes, so it’s not about hierarchy
inside the university.
It’s more look at the gender hierarchy
and in a sexuality way, of course.
So I’m also happy that I support this project
because we have a different government.
So this also can give hope for us
to try to change things and create.
Because when people ask me about Brazil,
I just say, well, you know that in Brazil, you
don’t have a lot of policies inside the university that
support the report about sexual harassment.
So I think it’s the way that we can create these policies.
And I really hope that this project can help us
to change our little things or our huge things.
So with that, I’d like to be part of that.
And thank you so much.
So that was Caroline, our project partner from Brazil.
Along with Caroline, we have project partners
in South Africa, Nigeria, what am I, Chile, and New Zealand.
I think that’s about it.
Jess, do you have any closing remarks, comments?
You don’t have to.
I don’t think I do.
Just an apology, really, for my poor tech transitions
between things.
But no, you did great.
Anything that didn’t work was a capitalist conspiracy,
so it’s fine.
There you go.
Trying to stop us, that’s the line we are taking.
But thank you again, everyone.
There’s a lot of comrades and friends
online who’ve joined us.
Yeah, and I was going to say, if you have any questions,
and including your colleagues online,
please put them in the chat.
Yeah.
But you also have, we’re going to be around.
So grab us, ask us, have a drink with us.
People online, if you want to carry on this conversation,
you have our email.
So feel free to email us any time.
We can set up a Zoom call.
We can meet in person.
But yeah, thank you, everyone.
Thank you for joining us.
And again, a big thank you to every single friend,
comrade, academic, practitioner, survivor,
who’s walked so far with us in this journey
and who continue to walk with us.
Again, this project belongs to all of you.
And yeah, we’re looking forward to where this takes us.
And hopefully, see you soon in our next event.
If you want to, we will post about all our events
on our Twitter, which, as of this morning, is femideas.
It’s fem underscore ideas?
Fem underscore ideas.
So follow us on Twitter.
If Twitter lasts, which I highly doubt it will.
And until we find another more community-led social platform
where we can connect with others, we are on Twitter.
Have a great evening.
Thank you for coming.
Thank you.